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2 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 3:37 PM
Why are patterns posted online here that I can buy and pay for, if I’m only allowed to use them for personal use? If I pay for them, I should be able to use the finished product and sell it in my online store. That’s why I buy patterns in the first place. I don’t need the items for personal use!

3423 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 3:52 PM
Hello Angelika,

when you buy a book with patterns, you are only allowed to use them for personal use.
So it is with many patterns that you can purchase here on Crazypatterns, for example.
Of course, every designer is free to also allow their patterns to be used for commercial production, but that is not the rule.

My patterns, for example, are also for personal use only; anyone who would like to use them commercially can purchase a (paid) license from me.
In general, this offering is aimed primarily at private individuals, not businesses.
A lot of work goes into the patterns, both physical (making the prototypes) and mental (coming up with ideas, developing the patterns, etc.). In my opinion, given the low prices, it is not justified to expect that you may use them to earn money yourself, which is why I offer licenses. Most authors/designers will see it the same way or very similarly.

This is not meant badly, but to encourage understanding.

Best regards

2681 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 4:05 PM
Hi Angelika,

I’d like to make a comparison here: 
If I buy a Blu-ray disc or a DVD, I’m allowed to watch the film at home, privately; I’m allowed to watch it with friends and family, ... but I’m not allowed to give a public screening of it. 
It’s the same with music. I can buy a CD and listen to the music at home over and over again; I can even make copies of the CD so that I have one in the car, one in the living room, ... But I’m not allowed to play the music at public events, sell the copies, or let it run in the background of YouTube videos, ..

It is ultimately up to the designer to decide what may or may not happen with their designs. 
Personally, I’m completely fine with someone selling the things made from my patterns, but if someone doesn’t want that, that is absolutely their right.
You can normally see before buying whether a designer allows this, and if not, you can ask. That way, as a commercial seller, you don’t run the risk of buying a pattern without knowing this beforehand.  

Best regards
Tina 

(Of course, what I’m writing here does not replace professional legal advice!)

594 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 4:09 PM
Hi Angelika,

regarding the points my fellow authors raised, I’d like to add that there are also a few things to keep in mind when making a purchase.

For example, I design patterns for animals and figures (amigurumi). Before they can even be considered for sale, these require a CE marking, which is very time-consuming and costly.

This is also one reason why I don’t sell these figures and animals myself, but only the patterns for them.

2 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 5:29 PM
Thank you very much for the prompt replies. I live in the U.S., and things are usually a little different here. In that case, I’ll probably keep looking for patterns that are also permitted for commercial use.

23217 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 5:42 PM
@Angelika Schlieper,
welcome to our community.
Just ask the seller in question; you may be able to work something out.

2749 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM
Hello Angelika Schlieper,

welcome here.
In my shop, the copyright for the respective pattern applies; the finished products may gladly be

sold commercially as well
"made according to ....pattern by Waltraud Keil - https://swollkoerberl.jimdo.com/ "

with this note.

Aside from that, like Josefa, I think it’s worth consulting with the respective author to reach a separate agreement.

Best regards
Traudelina

Waltraud Keil - S' Wollkörberl - www.swollkoerberl.jimdo.com

Monday, March 27, 2017 at 9:33 PM
My patterns are protected by copyright—that’s just how it is.

Jana

3522 Posts Recent Started
Monday, March 27, 2017 at 9:49 PM
I just went through the relevant sections of Austrian copyright law to be sure. Under Austrian law, the copyright holder generally has the option to prohibit the sale of finished products, but isn’t required to do so. It’s at their discretion.
I’ve never considered imposing such a ban on my patterns. On a large scale, they can’t be reproduced commercially—they simply take time to make—and if someone wants to sell one or two pieces, by all means, go ahead; I have no objection. I’ve also been asked explicitly for permission from time to time, and I’ve agreed every single time.
The patterns themselves may not be resold, but that goes without saying.

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