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2 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 3:13 PM
Hi everyone
I’d like to knit my own wedding dress. I found a great pattern, but it’s in English and unfortunately also rather challenging. Does anyone know someone who could translate and simplify the pattern for me?
Surprisingly, it’s hard to find dresses for weddings...

22707 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 3:33 PM
Hello voegelinorma,
welcome here with us and congratulations on your engagement.
If this pattern was purchased here on our site, you can ask the author for help, or you can send me the link and I’ll ask for help on your behalf.
If this pattern wasn’t purchased here, I’d still advise you to contact the author directly. You’re not allowed to upload patterns that don’t belong to you here on our site, not even in parts, and you also can’t simply have them translated or edited without the author’s permission. 
I wish you the best of luck. 

1534 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 7:51 PM
But wedding-themed dresses are also a very big and challenging project 😁 If this is your first pattern in English, that’s very ambitious...
  My most elaborate project so far was a christening gown...

The translation and “simplification” part is going to be tricky—and I don’t mean the translation itself.... It’s more of a “copyright thing”...
I know it’s almost impossible to find a suitable translator online.... 

2 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 8:29 PM
Thanks for the replies. I already figured there might be a copyright issue...

3917 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 10:28 PM
Can’t Google translate that? It should work automatically on a computer.

1534 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 10:44 PM
😂 What Aunt Google translates is a real laugh… I tried it out. I can’t say if it’s because of the technical terms, but the result was complete nonsense. Some individual sentences are okay, but then it gets really bizarre. I asked my nephew if he could translate it (he’s studying aerospace engineering, so English is his primary language), but even he said, “This is too specialized”—too many terms that are “only” used in knitting... 

3917 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 10:47 PM
Okay, that’s certainly possible—so AI clearly still has room for improvement. :-)

1534 Posts Recent Started
Monday, July 22, 2024 at 11:37 PM
But there’s so much room for improvement 😂😂😂
Maybe there just isn’t enough demand for it yet—AI is still “learning,” after all...
There’s a really cool experiment with knitting patterns and AI. They fed it a ton of patterns and then had it write its own patterns.... It’s a good idea in principle, but some of the patterns are completely impossible to knit because the AI simply lacks the practical experience to get it right... 

106 Posts Recent Started
Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 5:47 PM
Hi Norma,

Knitting patterns for wedding dresses are rare because they take a very, very, very long time to knit, and because such a dress can become incredibly heavy, depending on the material, width, and cut. If you want to make your own wedding dress, sewing is by far the better solution, but that takes time, too.

  That aside: Translating knitting patterns is a specialized form of translation , because they contain a great many technical terms and abbreviations that aren’t found in any dictionary. And you can forget about a translation from someone who can’t knit at all—or can’t knit well.
  Just take a look at the patterns offered in multiple languages by some yarn manufacturers, for example. The German translations are often so convoluted that it’s hard to understand what you’re supposed to do. (I could link to examples, but I know that’s not allowed here.)

  For a clear, technical translation, you pay at least 30 euros per page (approx. 250 words), often even more, depending on the complexity, and translation isn’t allowed at all without the author’s permission. If, as you mention, simplifications are made (how many? How much does the difficulty level have to be lowered?), then that’s almost a job for a skilled designer.

If it absolutely has to be knitted, here’s one possible solution for you:
1. Find a simple dress pattern without a lot of frills.
2. Lengthen it as needed.
3. Choose a yarn that isn’t too heavy.
4. Knit a gauge swatch in stockinette stitch.
5. Then calculate the number of stitches and rows for the pattern pieces, knit the garment, and sew it together.
Once it’s finished, you can jazz it up by sewing on sequins, beads, lace, and the like.

4464 Posts Recent Started
Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 8:02 PM
As for translations, I’ve been using DeepL for a while now.

1534 Posts Recent Started
Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 8:31 PM
I’ll have to make a note of that in case I ever want to give it a try....
Thanks for the tip 

3499 Posts Recent Started
Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 8:21 PM
Thanks for the tip. I tried it out right away. It works great :-))

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